Interview with Darezhan Omirbayev: Poets remain poets at all times

Darezhan Omirbayev (1958, Uyuk, Kazakhstan) studied utilized arithmetic. He then went on to review movie on the State Movie Institute (VGIK) in Moscow. He was a critic for a number of years for the journal New Movie. In 1991 he received the FIPRESCI Award in Locarno together with his debut function “Kairat”. “Killer” received the Un Sure Regard Prize at Cannes in 1998. “Scholar” competed within the Un Sure Regard part on the 2012 Cannes Movie Pageant.

On the event of the discharge of his newest film, “Poet”, we converse with him concerning the inspiration behind the movie and Makhambet Utemisov, poetry and artwork, the Kazakh language, humor, cinema, and lots of different subjects.

What was the inspiration behind Poet? Do you establish with the protagonist in any method?

The preliminary thought for the script surfaced whereas studying a brief story by Herman Hesse, “An Writer’s Night”. I stumbled upon it by probability and it put one thing in movement inside me, the will for a movie. After all, I felt near the character, as he’s an artist. I even thought I might make him a director visiting a small city for a screening, realizing nobody got here to look at his movie… However I already made a movie a couple of director, “The Street”, and I felt it might extra fascinating to make the protagonist a poet this time. I associated to him anyway, his ideas and considerations are these of each creator.

Why did you resolve to incorporate the story of Makhambet Utemisov?

Makhambet is a nineteenth century legendary poet. With Isatay Taymanov, he led insurgent teams in Kazakh steppe, combating in opposition to each Tsarist and Khan Jangir’s troops. Isatay died throughout a conflict in opposition to Russian Imperial forces. Makhambet survived for some time, hiding from the authorities. Throughout that point, he wrote many poems, however later was additionally killed. The second of his loss of life commanded to be proven on a display screen, nearly as a superb scene from a cinematic standpoint, if alas very merciless. The script derives from two tales, each recounting lives of poets. Poets stay poets always, sharing comparable troubles. I believe even their minds and souls are alike. I made a decision to mix tales to enhance one another. It additionally felt it may very well be fascinating to maneuver from a century to a different, and examine.

Do you suppose poetry is an artwork that borders on changing into out of date? Why do you suppose there are nonetheless poets these days?

Individuals nonetheless write poems, our phrases didn’t disappear directly. The place there’s a language, you’ll find poetry, it would vanish when its mom language disappears. Mankind is slowly shifting in direction of a single language, although, most likely English. Kazakhs are bragging their idiom has a wealthy and enormous vocabulary, however in our days, it is likely to be extra of a drawback. Wealthy, complicated languages are dropping to English Should you translate two pages of Kazakh into Russian, you get one and half pages. Should you translate it into English, you get one. That’s the energy of the English language. Like a machine syntax, nice for messages, computer systems. Clear and concise. However Pushkin would most likely not have been in a position to write in English, his poetry may need misplaced all uniqueness. Wealthy languages disappear first. These days, the whole lot turns into standardized, quick. Languages mirror that and poetry faces many struggles. I like haiku, however for me they aren’t poetry in a literary sense and are extra like brief movies. So I can’t actually reply whenever you ask me why individuals nonetheless compose poetry. Poets may need the reply.

On the whole what it your opinion on the place of artwork in a world the place know-how, the web and social medias have come to dominate?

It’d sound odd, however attempting to outline “arts” I ended contemplating them as problem-solving strategies. While you can not remedy a brand new drawback utilizing outdated strategies, the necessity for a artistic resolution emerges. Such artistic spark, from sciences or arts, is a necessity for the preservation of any society. If it disappears, the whole lot quickly turns outdated, bitter and formulaic. When new issues emerge and you’ll’t discover options, disaster is close to. Contemplating, I assume arts might be round so long as people go on. Einstein thought of that no troublesome drawback is solved on the extent it first emerges at. To be able to remedy it, it’s a must to method it from the following stage. That is what artistic course of is all about, and one can expertise this even in day by day life.

Kazakhstan is to undertake a brand new alphabet, changing the Russian Cyrillic script. Within the movie, you touch upon the actual fact, however might you elaborate in your ideas on the matter?

I do not likely discuss this in my movie, however I believe this can be a huge mistake. I studied in a Kazakh faculty myself and didn’t converse Russian very effectively. I wrote essays, brief tales in Kazakh. I do know and really feel there was no demand for altering the alphabet. It’s a man-made drawback, created for political causes. The alphabet might have been modified earlier than the elimination of illiteracy within the final century. Now that everybody is aware of methods to learn and write, altering the alphabet is like altering sneakers in the midst of a race. We would merely find yourself neglecting 70 years of literary manufacturing, historiography, archives… A real catastrophe. I hope we’ll hand over this concept. It occurred in Uzbekistan and my mates hold telling me it fuels whole chaos.

Didar within the film barely talks. Why did you select this method? On the whole how was your cooperation with Yerdos Kanaev?

The protagonist is extra of an introvert, a artistic particular person. They have an inclination to behave much less, to speak much less, absorbed of their interior lives. However the entourage really makes a king: you possibly can create a deep and coherent character even when solely others, not him, speak.

We first thought of one other actor, a Kazakh speaker, who graduated from a Kazakh faculty. However he was from Almaty, a metropolis man, and you may see it in his eyes he was a Russian speaker. Then we skilled a lockdown, three months of stagnation. By probability, throughout these days, I noticed the efficiency of a folks band from Shymkent on web. One of many singers caught my consideration. We invited him over and I felt he was an ideal match. I really feel it drastically benefited the movie.

Two of essentially the most fascinating episodes within the film are the one with the lone lady within the theater the Poet goes to talk and the one within the electrical home equipment store. Are you able to give us some extra particulars concerning the objective of these scenes and the best way you shot them?

The episode with the stutter that stops whereas studying poetry was impressed by Hesse. Nevertheless, in “An Writer’s Night”, the viewers is ready for somebody who would entertain them as an alternative of a author. I made a decision to make this story extra constructive. I really feel what issues is just not the quantity however the high quality of your viewers. You could possibly have a couple of or perhaps only one, but when she or he understands the which means you place into your movie, it brings extra pleasure than the superficial response of a full viewers. The identical goes with poems. An understanding reader is healthier than a crowd of shallow admirers.
The actress is considered one of my college students by the best way, she research movie historical past.

In regards to the stuttering stopping when one reads, issues like that occur. We had an actor, Zhakybayev, who stuttered in actual life however by no means when the digital camera was on.

The scene within the ironmongery shop might be extra playful and speculative.

How was your cooperation with DP Boris Troshev? On the whole, what was your objective within the visible facet of the film? May you additionally give us some extra particulars concerning the places the movie was shot?

I’ve labored with Boris Troshev on most of my movies, he’s an excellent operator and an excellent man, at all times totally dedicated to our movies.

We had each up to date and historic units, with plenty of completely different places. However first, we went to Makhambet Utemisov’s mausoleum. The local weather there was harsh, freezing. We filmed our ultimate scenes there, however in a method, we had additionally come to ask for Makhambet’s blessing. That’s what I wrote within the guests’ e-book there, and I need to imagine it helped us. Now we have been fortunate, discovered a brand new actor, matched all deadlines…

Probably the greatest belongings of the movie is the moderately clever use of humor all through the film. How necessary is the usage of humor for you in a movie?

Humor is a treasured instrument that manifests itself in a number of particulars within the movie, though the movie is just not exactly enjoyable… Humor is a small act of creativity. If an individual makes a superb joke, he creates a small verbal manifestation of artwork. It permits each particular person to interact in creativity, though it’s mentioned many nice males lacked a humorousness. Some say Dostoevsky didn’t make nor perceive jokes. In any respect. I assume he was the exception and I are likely to suppose humor is a basic facet of creativity.

What’s your opinion relating to the cinema of Kazakhstan in the mean time?

If we discuss artwork, we’re in decline, like the remainder of the world. Nevertheless, leisure and sequence are doing effectively. There are filmmakers right here and there who resist, however movie artwork as a phenomenon, is dying. I see two causes. One is extreme theatricality, skilled appearing, dramaturgy. All of this lead movies away from a particular cinematic aesthetic, and in direction of a theatrical one. The second is that, perhaps, we exhausted its artistic potential. Like opera. Now we nearly shouldn’t have new operas, or epics, or fairy tales… A minimum of few emerge. Cinema is a brand new artwork kind in comparison with theater. However up to date cinema is in stagnation, even when we discovered to create stable movies. Sure, plots differ, however we shouldn’t have a brand new model, we use theatrical and literary approaches with no cinematic language. New wine into outdated wineskins, that’s the reason it’s dying. It’s doable to create new cinema if we hand over the outdated aesthetics of literature and theater. To be able to try this, we have to perceive cinematic aesthetic, language, a language of photographs and sounds. Movie modifying doesn’t play the position it ought to have, the movie should go on, the faster the tempo, the higher. Cinematic language permits us to edit movies creatively, similar to it was executed by Eisenstein, however we see much less and fewer makes an attempt to it. We lack artistic approaches.

Are you at present engaged on a brand new challenge?

I’m engaged on a brief movie a couple of faculty opened by a Kyrgyz patron. He opened the primary one in his village, now he sponsors fourteen faculties. He’s an arts fanatic and approached a number of administrators to contribute to his initiative.

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